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Intro Pt. 2 Big Herbie, Little Herbie Evil Boy Scouts Job Hunting Pronghorn Antelope 1984 How and When to Ban Books 100 Things How We Got Roo Dead Drunk Resolutions Reiterator '06 Carter gets BLOWN UP!
Books I love:
1) The King James Bible – God 2) Have Spacesuit, Will Travel – Robert Heinlein 3) The Moon is a Harsh Mistress – Robert Heinlein 4) Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy(all 5 books in the trilogy) – Douglas Adams 5) Ride the Dark Trail – Louis L’Amour 6) Fahrenheit 451 – Ray Bradbury 7) North to the Rails – Louis L’Amour *) A book I hated but think everyone in the world ought to read is 1984 – George Orwell.
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Check out the attacks that the Boy Scouts of America receive because of what they believe and teach! ![]() Scarbrough's Garden. These are the kind folks that are going to help me grow a Savannah Melody Daylily! Scarbroughs Garden
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Herb Thiel
I would so much like to thank all of you for your prayers, kind thoughts and words of encouragement. The trip was long. I was thankful to have learned a lot from reading Pops's accounts of his father's last days because I was somewhat prepared for the emotional roller-coaster ride. I kept telling everyone that in times like this it is easy to get upset and start fighting at the drop of a hat and not only dropped mine once but threw it on the ground. Well, not literally, but I would have if I had been present. I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings (really); and I have no scripture at all to back this up so I realize that it is strictly my subjective feeling, but I do not believe in cremation at all. I think it is bizarre to burn up your loved one in a furnace and then put some of their ashes (You realize you aren't given all of them, just a small portion of them, right? Also that there are many stories about people's ashes being mixed with others, along with scraps of bone, etc.) In a bottle on your shelf. While I cannot find scripture actually condemning the practice, I can only find in the scripture where people were buried. At the resurrection and final judgment it won't matter, of course, but it's just my feeling that it is wrong. Maybe if you were guaranteed that you would get all of the person's ashes and only theirs and could divide them up amongst all the family members who would want some...I don't know...I can't make it work for me. You do what you want to with your own family, but don't try to persuade me. I can't be made to believe otherwise and don't "get" the romance or beauty of it. Anyway, I wanted to give mom a decent, Christian burial and could not believe that someone would have the nerve to suggest that we save money (and only for the purpose of saving money) and do a cremation. I couldn't believe that someone who is not even a legal part of the family would try to convince one of us (because of the money) to do this. I hope someone sees through this person but I think my dad already does, which is the most important thing. He may be 80 and have cataracts but he can see what people are really made of and I think he will see through this person as well, which is all that matters. Anyway, that was a fuss for a short time until I put my foot down. Fortunately for us, the funeral director is a close personal friend of the pastor, and they often play racquetball together. He was very good to us and even though he did it "on the cheap" (Read "at cost") he was able to provide a very nice funeral and burial which the pastor of the church she attended for 31 years presided over and well within budgetary concerns, so that fight never got off the ground. Another of the pastor's racquetball partners is a man in the church who just bought a Bed & Breakfast. As you travel down Highway 29 East out of Bonduel on the left-hand side of the road is a large building which used to be a cheese factory (If you get to Doc's Harley-Davidson you went too far) that was going to be demolished because the county was making a new highway and it didn't have a proper driveway. They lived in the farmhouse at the bottom of the hill and made an arrangement to have the driveway come from their house up to the place on the hill. It is an old building that had the cheese factory in the bottom floor, the owner's home on the main floor and some apartments on the top floor. They have beautiful hardwood floors and trim and the house overlooks a cornfield. I woke up with my cup of coffee and went and watched the sunrise over the mist. It was a truly relaxing place and the people treated us like friends and family, not customers. We are definitely going to stay there whenever we might get a vacation. (The church there did take up a collection to pay them, however.) The kindness of our own church helping to offset our traveling expenses along with the kindness of their church toward us sure made things a lot easier let me tell you. Ben and Isabel and Savannah were unable to go with us and Troy couldn't go, so I was the only driver. Ashley stayed here with Janet and Grandma, so we just had baby Douglas and his mommy and Abigail and Tabitha. Anyway, after traveling 1200 miles with 3 sisters and a baby (Margaret wasn't too much trouble, lol.) I was weary in body and mind as well as spirit and the bed was a most welcome sight. At the funeral, my brother's girlfriend read a beautiful tribute she had written about my mom then Pastor H. preached the actual funeral. When a person has been in church for 31 years and is known to spend hours in prayer and Bible reading, and to have lived consistently, it is easier to handle and the sermon was wonderful, with an appropriate touch of humor in a couple of spots along with the hope that we have in the resurrection. My other brother's girlfriend (neither one married, much to mom's consternation) provided a beautiful dress and overall support, especially emotional support to my youngest brother who was really close to mom. My mom read her Bible from cover to cover completely once or twice every year and my dad and brothers decided to put it in the casket with her, which was a nice and fitting touch. About the saddest thing was that several times my dad remarked that if she had only lived one more day it would have been their 46th wedding anniversary. Mom and my aunt were very close and my aunt was really broken up over the whole thing. They used to go to every garage sale in town and visit every thrift store. One of my mom's brothers was their also. I don't really know him at all When the children (13 of them) were young they were all taken away and put in different foster homes and many have lost touch and bonding with each other. The aunt who was there is the sister that took her rummage sale-ing everyday and helped her out a lot. During her life my mother had battled a variety of mental illnesses, most of which were brought on by her lost childhood and youth that made her sensitive to people with special needs who often are friendless or nearly so. The room was crowded with many of these folks from around town who talked about how my mom was a true friend to them. It was really something. The trip to the cemetery went past a couple of garage sales and led to a couple of humorous remarks about making it past without stopping and this got a chuckle out of my dad, which was good. At the dinner at the church a man came up to me that I have known since I was 15. He is the man that witnessed to my mom and dad all those years ago and invited them to church. He was impacted by the idea of seeing someone that he had witnessed to come to their final rest as a strong, full-time believer. Had it not been for him, it is likely that none of my family would have ever gotten in church and fairly certain that I would not be typo-ing, er, typing this for you now. Remember, The Good Book says, "The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot." And my dad says, "It's not what you know, it's who you know." P.S. I plan to start back to blog-hopping again tomorrow, so make sure you update! I am back in town and will be around the blogsphere in a couple days after things re-stabilize and will have a story to tell. Thank you all so much for your prayers, kind words and thoughts. My Mom passed away at about 2:30 this A.M. Got a call from mom's pastor, he was staying with my dad so he wouldn't be alone. If you hear from me or get any visits it will be sporadic at best as we try to get ready for the 1300 mile trip to Wisconsin. Thanks for all your prayers and support. Today is, apparently, left-handers day. Since I haven't had time to do a real update, I thought I'd give you few links and change the poll to something about handedness. I am slowly working on a couple of updates for you as well. The antibiotics seem to have helped but I still have this barky cough. http://www.lefthandzone.com/site/684713/page/45029 http://www.lefthandersday.com/index.html http://www.lefthandedchildren.org/ http://www.lefthandedchildren.org/letter-formation.htm Also, here are the results from the last two polls: Thanks to all of you who have stuck with me! You guys are the greatest. Remember. the Good Book says, "Among all this people there were seven hundred chosen men lefthanded; every one could sling stones at an hair breadth, and not miss." Well, the drugs are beginning to take effect and I am feeling somewhat better. I still have a broken laptop, though, and can’t find enough peace and quiet all at one time to work on anything much. I did find a few half-entries on my flash-drive and will try to remember what I was writing and do them. Thanks again to all of you who tag me and leave comments. I am often in awe at the quality of writers and bloggers who stop by. I do try to reciprocate you. I really don't know what to do for time to write. When I feel good I get up at 3 and make coffee, check e-mail and respond to it, and then look at my blog and see who's tagged me and stop off there first, then go and visit everyone else's blogs. Margaret gets up between 4 and 4:30 so I have approximately an hour on the computer when I can think and type. During the day as I sit in the car waiting for her to get done with her clients I could type on the laptop. Now the house and the computer are busy seemingly around the clock. She used to get up at 5:00 - 5:30 which gave a little extra time, too. It isn't only that there are people on the computer, but I have a hard time concentrating with all of the conversations going on and all of the "Dad, this" and the "Dad, thats." So when I do get on the computer during the day, sometimes I will try to make it to all the blogs I missed but there again, it can be difficult concentrating on reading if the article is somewhat in-depth. Okay. That's enough of all that for now. Have I earned my cheese and crackers yet? Remember (Herb) the good book says, "Thou shalt not whine." Got this over at Chrysalis' Blog. The loss of the laptop has affected my blogging, but I will try to keep the momentum up that I had going. Plus, I have been sick and it turned into Bronchitis and was prescribed Antibiotics and the "Good" cough medicine. I am very sensitive to drugs (they used to call me "two-can" back in my drinking days.) and it either makes me loopy or conks me out. For the daytime when I'm driving they told me to take an over-the-counter thing, so we'll see what happens. Life has been happening also, but I am not at liberty to discuss some of the big things yet, but I will bring them to you when it is appropriate. Thanks to all of you who have stuck with me, some from the beginning, and especially everyone who leaves comments. Comments are very important to me. I normally hate doing memes, but this one was sufficiently different to keep my attention. 1. When did you start blogging and why? Monday, 04 October 2004. My first entry was entitled "To Blog or Not To Blog" and the entry began, "To blog or not to blog, that was my question 2. How do you use blogging to build friendships? I don't think I really use it for that, it just happens. If someone visits my blog, I try to visit theirs back. After you read a person's writing for a while, you get to know them. Not all friendships are equally close, however. I feel I have made some really good friends though. 3. Who do you read every day, rain or shine? I have a list of about 30 I try to hit every single day, but it is in sore need of being updated so I took the blogroll down. I am planning to do another entry with an updated list. 4. Why did you choose to share that piece of yourself in a photograph? If this question is meant about the profile pic, it's my favorite. My daughter Abi took it and we fixed the background. I think it's the "real" me and explains why some Indians believed that part of your spirit could be captured by the camera and refused to be photographed. 5. How would you describe your writing style? Down-to-earth, conversational. 6. If you could spend time with one person (other than your spouse, because really, let's not rack up the suck up points here)? George W. and Laura Bush. 7. What don't you write about? Personal things about other people, even other family members. 8. How do you feel about meeting bloggers in real life? Are you nervous? Will you have great expectations? Never have, but think it might be fun. Since I am a tee totaling Prohibitionist I don't like to go to bars. For a partial explanation of this position, read my entry, "Dead Drunk." I have a hard time abiding drunk people, partly because the first thing they will insist to you is that they are not drunk, they've "Jusht had a couple." That being said, there are some people I would love to meet in person. 9. Is there one blogger in particular that you find mirrors yourself? I think Daveman might have at times. 10. What is your favorite thing that you wrote? That is a tough one because I really put a lot of work into everything I write. The list in the sidebar shows some of my favorites. 11. Have you written anything controversial? Yes and I plan to again, too. I write about whatever I feel like and if someone is offended, well, I don't purposely try to offend, but this blog is about ME and what I think or feel about things. 12. Are you and your blogging persona the same person? Yeah. I'm a rotten liar, faker or bluffer and never won a poker game in my life. This is me. 13. Have you ever anonymously posted on a site to flame them? Never. If I comment somewhere, you know it was me. 14. If you had a super power, what would it be? Invisibility 15. Which five bloggers do you want to answer these questions? Since I think this is an interesting meme I would just like to see everybody do it on, but on their own, the way Pops did. When I got that first job at the drugstore back in 1974 (see the entry "Changed"), I learned a lot. I don't know how much I knew I was learning at the time, but I think back and a few things stand out. I learned: If you get out of bed early on Saturday morning and go to work, you can make money. Working hard helps make you more money. More money means more Tombstone Pizzas and Coca-Colas and comic books and sci-fi books, especially if your family can't buy you these things whenever you want them. If you don't sweep and mop in the corners every Saturday, nobody will notice. If you never sweep and mop in the corners, they will. Always rotate stock. Put the older stuff toward the front, even if it means taking everything off the shelf. While you have everything off the shelf, clean the shelf. Respect everybody; you never know when the scruffy old guy in the beat-up fishing hat is your boss's grandfather. Or the mayor. Prophylactic devices are behind the register, in the third drawer on the right and you shouldn't shout across the store, "Hey Keith! Where do we keep the, what was it, prophylactic devices?" Back then such things were not on display and, believe it or not, I didn't have a clue what they were or what they were for. Until Keith told me, "You know some people get embarrassed when you talk about things like that, especially across the store." "What?" "Rubbers." "Oh." But really, one of the most interesting things about the job was watching him work the art of the apothecary. They don't do this much nowadays in drugstores and pharmacies, but back then it was more common. Old folks especially, who remembered Keith's grandfather, would come into town from all over the county and ask for concoctions that had been made at that counter since the store opened. A little old gal would come in and ask for an arthritis cream that Keith's father or uncle used to make for her. Keith had been a sailor at one time and could be a little gruff, a Camel "straight" dangling from his lower lip all the time while he was working or talking, but he always had respect for the old folks that came in. I think all of the merchants in our town did because in a small farming community it is the plain ol' folks that started your business and kept it in business. Even though the town was a tourist trap even back then, the locals were always respected. I should say he used to have a camel cigarette dangling from his lower lip, but we're getting to that. Anyway, he felt, even in 1974, that the world was losing an art by losing the old-fashioned apothecary and that he should try to keep these traditions going as long as he could. He also knew there was a very tidy profit in it as well, extra work or not and two more things I learned from that job is that, besides a desire to provide a service to the community, people go into business to make money and it pays to be an informed buyer. He never cheated or skimped on a prescription or a concoction, however, using only the best, most expensive ingredients and passing the cost on. So these little old gals would come in and he would put aside the gruffness and get out a sheet of special waxed paper and put a glop of cream on it. In a locked drawer behind the prescription counter was a small, leather-bound black journal filled with scrawlings made in Latin and written in fading fountain-pen ink. He would let me page through it, even though I couldn't make sense of it (or maybe because I couldn't make sense of it) because he saw the fondness and reverence I had toward the artifact. I love old books and things of that sort, always have. He would take ingredients down from various brown bottles and grind them in a mortar and pestle, then mix them into the base cream and have me fetch the appropriate jar to put it in. Then he would call the customer, who swore by the stuff. I also learned that there were drug abusers in the world. We used to be able to sell cough syrup that contained Codeine over the counter, but Keith had a system he used that he had learned from his uncle and father. I don't recall if it was a law or not. If someone wanted to buy some cough medicine, I could recommend any kind but "the good stuff," which was kept on a shelf in the back room, out of plain sight and only available to customers that asked for it that were known people to either Keith or Paul (his uncle that worked with us in busy seasons) who were the only ones allowed to sell it. If the person wasn't known to them, but looked like they were probably okay, (I didn't know all the signs of a drug abuser or "dope" then) he would make them sign and date a logbook they kept. I remember one time a guy had come in and bought a bottle of wine and wanted to buy some "good" cough medicine. Keith just told him we didn't have any. "I know you guys have. You all have it. I really, really want some." "Sorry pal. I also have the number to the Police (there was no "911" and all we had were rotary dial phones that were attached to the wall.) Department, too." The guy practically flew out the door, and Keith explained that the guy would drink the bottle of wine and the bottle of cough syrup together and get stoned. I was shocked. The idea of taking more than the proper dose of a medicine just boggled my poor, sheltered little brain. Keith could make his own cough syrups, too. They were very expensive and used strange ingredients I had never heard of as well as copious amounts of pure alcohol and Codeine and flavorings. These recipes also came from his little book and as I said, had a high cost attached to them. One day after Keith had me fetch the ingredients for a large bottle of one of his cough medicines, he went to work, trademark Camel dangling from his lip. I had walked away while he was very carefully measuring an exact amount of this, and exactly so much of this other and I was waiting on a customer when throughout the store rang the loudest, most profane string of curse-words I had ever heard. And many I had never heard. The customer left as I ran toward the back, picturing my boss lying in a pool of blood and me having to look up the ambulance number, but it was nothing like that. There he stood cursing and swearing, sans cigarette. I saw the butt of the cigarette snuffed out in the test tube. The ash from the cigarette had fallen from it right into the almost finished product. My laughter did not lighten his mood any and there were many colorful descriptive terms for physically impossible things that came out of his mouth. I was sent to work the rest of the day cleaning a disused storeroom in an unfinished part of the basement, affectionately known as The Dungeon. "Go clean the blankity-blank, double-expletive deleted, blankity-blank-blank-blank dungeon! There's nothing funny about this blankity-blank-blank-blank it anyway." I had never, ever seen him that mad or red in the face. I was afraid he was going to kill me or worse yet, fire me right then and there and bye-bye pizza and Coke. Cleaning the dungeon was worse than getting killed, but I still had my job. By Monday he was laughing and joking about it himself. So I learned another thing from that job. I know some might take me task for saying this, but the way he strung those words together was almost artistic, eloquent, and even poetic or beautiful. Not just the one word that is now common everywhere, especially certain types of sounds erroneously referred as music by some, but a string that never reused a word. This may be very bad to say (and it has been a very long time since I have done this myself and emulated his speech) but his alliterations were where they should be with a flowing rhythm. He was not repetitive or redundant and if you are not living as a Christian you would almost have to be envious of his broad vocabulary. Yes, there was one more thing I learned from that first job, I learned to cuss like a sailor! Or don't laugh your ash off. Remember, the Good Book says, "And thou shalt make it an oil of holy ointment, an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary..." Thanks to all of you for your kind words and encouraging comments and everyone's support. I especially wish to thank Pops, for writing so eloquently and often poignantly about his father's last days. It has been comforting in this time since mom has gotten sick. She is steadily declining to the point where I have to decide whether to make the trek to Wisconsin to see her one last time (Which was kind of why her church sent her out here) only to turn around and go back again for a funeral or wait. Savannah and the miniature poodle, Boston Blacky, have become quite attached to each other. The other day she sat down with him and took the dog's food, poured it into his water bowl and, spoon in hand, commenced to eat it like cereal. Until Tabitha caught her and made her quit. The laptop is still belly-up so updates are not as quick as they were, but there is a man in the church who is a tech and will look at it for me. Hopefully he can do something. Remember, the Good Book says, "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain..." Not much time to update since the laptop went belly-up but here are a couple of things, "hot off the wire." Mom was in the hospital last couple of days, didn't sound very good at all, but they pulled her through. My brothers, who live there in Shawano area, had to choose a nursing home for her, though, so she will be moving. Dad had been working so hard helping her that he was gonna get sick and this was the final blow. I know my brothers know the area and the local scuttlebutt and can make a better decision than I could. Giant youth conference at the church called, "Heritage," meant to teach the old-time religion to a new generation. Oftentimes people are quick to just dump the old ways of doing things without looking into why some of those things were put into effect in the first place. Ashley, who has a gaggle of girls staying with her, has been talking about it a little on her blog. Speaking of blogs, in response to Jerry saying that it getting too political could hurt it, when I first started this, the 4th entry I ever did, in fact, said, "Just a note of explanation now that i have sent out a mail to all my friends and family about this blog. I have a wide variety of friends from a wider variety of ideologies. What this means to you, gentle reader (don't ya love Miss Manners?), is that some of you will wonder why there isn't more church stuff, or more political stuff, or more writing stuff, or more funny/weird stuff and while you are wondering about that, the other people will be wondering exactly the opposite, e.g., why so much church or politics, or who cares about the difference between a trochee and an iambus and if he's such a big-time, fancy-schmancy writer, why does he use ridiculously long, yea, verily even, run on, sentences? "Oh, and i MUST clarify one other thing. I really am not a big-time writer. I have had a couple of very minor pieces printed in a vanity press. This is where this exercise is supposed to come in handy. I get to practice on my friends and relatives and any total stranger that happens to stroll by." So, you probably want to keep that in mind. I don't intentionally offend, but I don't see any reason to sugarcoat anything I believe or think or else the idea of a web-log, an online-journal, becomes a little silly to me. Remember, the good book says, "To thine own self be true." Or was that the Bard? I have said before that Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 is probably one of the most important books a person can and should read. While Orwell's 1984 may be more accurate I think Bradbury leaves us with a true glimmer of hope, which Orwell does not. Both books should be read by every member of every society and if you do read 1984, when you get to the end, take a piece of paper and cover the last paragraph, especially the last sentence of the book. Don't let yourself read that until the very end. It gave me cold goosebumps and nightmares. Fahrenheit 451 did not do that, exactly, but made a vivid, lasting impression on me when I first read it when I was 15 and the several times I've read it since. If you are not familiar with Bradbury's story, it is set in a future time surprisingly like our own in a country very much like ours. The Protagonist, Guy Montag, is a fireman of the time whose job is not to put fires out, but to start them. Houses are all fireproof but books have been outlawed completely. If you are found to own a book, your books and house are all burned and you are imprisoned. The title comes from the temperature at which book paper combusts. Written in the early 50's, Bradbury describes a society where people never go anywhere without their "ear-bud" radios plugged into their ears. They watch TV on giant, wall-sized screens and never do anything else. Books came to be outlawed by a process remarkably similar to the "Political Correctness" we see today. Some group found a certain book to be offensive and protested its printing, held burnings and got it banned from libraries. Another group found a different book offensive. Some found the Bible offensive, others found other writings offensive as all the while the people became less and less involved with the government and how it was run and more and more involved in personal entertainment. They eventually became so complacent and believed the propaganda spewed into their ear-buds and out of their TVs that it was not difficult for the government to pass laws, at first outlawing only certain books nobody ever really cared about or read anyways. The people continued feeding their minds on the pap from the carefully crafted, inoffensive TV shows while the government banned more and more books until finally all books were against the law. It all started out with people being made to believe they could not say whatever they wanted for fear of offending someone or some group while at the same time others became so thin-skinned that they took everything as a personal insult and provocation. The right not to be offended took the place of the right to free speech. (Obviously, there are some books that may belong on public or private library shelves that are not appropriate for a middle-school library and you can read my piece on book banning to learn how to deal with that and when.) Here in the United States we place a very high value on our Freedom of Speech. It was the first one of ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution that we refer to as "The Bill of Rights." "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." This has been interpreted to include a large number of things I don't know that the founders intended or could even have imagined, but any American citizen has the right to say whatever they want about whatever they want without fear of retaliation. Our law even protects works of art as well as political speech and prohibits the government from establishing a state religion while also prohibiting the government from interfering with any religion. It is a great law, but the Supreme Court has given it some few limits. For instance, you cannot go into a crowded theater and yell "fire!" when there is no fire. We are protected from libel and slander as well. So, if you want to make a statement by burning the very representation of your country that fosters this right, well, okay. Personally I don't understand it and you will never get me to acknowledge your ideas by doing it. It is the type of thing the REVEREND Fred Phelps' followers do. You can say what you want and do what you want because we are free; I just hope you also have the poor judgment to do it at a V.F.W. July 4th celebration because I think that if you are one of these ignorant, inarticulate, irreverent fools who believe burning the flag makes some sort of statement, you would deserve what you got. I don't know if protestors even use this anymore. I think nowadays it's flag-waving that everyone does. (You can ask Carter about living in Washington State where protestors drive their cars sporting their yellow ribbons to protests where they spit on returning soldiers and scream vitriolic epithets at them.) Anti-war hippie protestors of the 60's and 70's that used to burn the flag appear to have learned that most people, regardless of which side of the aisle they are on, don't have any respect for them when they do this. Besides, it has been established that this is a legal form of free speech which kind of takes the edge off it. It used to be a deeply shocking and dangerous form of expression, but now the people they are protesting just say, "Well, you have the right to say what you want." So I don't know how much this even actually goes on any more, if at all. I did read about a neighborhood in New York that had 8 homes' flags and poles burnt, one being the flag of their fallen Marine son, but this sort of thing is already covered in vandalism and arson laws and is not about free speech. Aside from the fact that we value our freedom of speech so highly in this country there are several valid, practical questions to consider as well, a few of which my liberal blog-buddy Jerry brought up a while ago. If it's against the law to burn the flag, does that include any and all flags? The paper one the newspaper prints every year? A photo of the flag? A 3x5 cotton flag? A confederate flag? A Christian flag? A Union Jack? The flags of other nations? A photo of someone burning the flag? What is the purpose and intent? To protect us from the one irreverent (and usually irrelevant) fool that feels the need to express himself this way? What if someone wants to hold an anti-religion rally and burns a Bible? Or a Koran? None of these things are things I would do, nor would most right-thinking people who are interested in communicating their beliefs and actual debate. It's like name-calling, you stinky poop-head. Besides, shouldn't you include the guy's house I see every day that has a filthy, faded U.S. flag and tattered POW flag that you can barely read the words on? Isn't that equally disrespectful and disgraceful, if not more so? I don't think the flag that flew over Fort Sumter is in as rough condition. There are way too many people who, in what I desperately hope is patriotic fervor, fly dilapidated, tattered pieces of cloth that excuse themselves as flags. Those little flags that you attached to your car on 9/12/01 that are just little strips of cloth (or plastic) need to be changed now, sir. What started out as a national solidarity under the proudest flag that's ever flown over the greatest country in the world, has turned into something of an embarrassment. I think the real problem is that many people do not really know they are doing something wrong. The Boy Scouts have put together a nice little easy-to-read guide for proper flag handling and the VFW has put together a little more in-depth flag etiquette and history, including a little more detailed instruction on disposing of a flag that is no longer serviceable. To me this was a poorly conceived electioneering device and the elected officials from both sides ought to be ashamed of themselves. Come on, you guys; do some real work for a change. Remember, the good book says, "Let despots remember the day/When our fathers with mighty endeavor/Proclaimed as they marched to the fray/That by their might and by their right/It waves forever." Or was that Sousa? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||